Posts by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

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You may PRETEND to care - in reality you are SELFISH!

by wannabefree in

that;s what my wife (and all jw's) gets to hear about us at the kingdom hall today, (hmmmm, i wonder if she'll raise her hand to answer this one) ... .

watchtower study ... today, apostates and others who create divisions in the congregation use “smooth talk and flattering speech.” (romans 16:17, 18) they may pretend to care about others, but in reality, they are selfish.. (the watchtower - study edition (simplified version) 10/17 page 4 paragraph 7).

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This really strikes a nerve with me. I have ALWAYS had the same level of integrity and love for my fellow man both before I learned the real truth and AFTER I left the organization.

Here's what's despicable to me:

While in the organization, I would go out of my way to take care of other sisters and be kind and generous with them. And it was a pleasure. These acts of kindness and compassion were chalked up to "Jehovah's blessings" for these sisters. When these sisters were down and out and I'd do something to cheer them up, they'd use this as evidence that Jehovah cares for them and is using ones in the congregation to upbuild them.

After I became an "apostate" (ie, woke up), all my tireless efforts to just be a good friend have been branded as "flattery and smooth talk" and a sinister ploy to lead these sisters astray.

Same person. Same heart. Same love. One minute I'm fulfilling the unity and love narrative of WT, the next, I'm an "agent of Satan" - a wicked and malevolent conduit of the demons. It's disgusting how much a good-hearted person can be vilified and demonized based on the dividing agenda of a cult leadership in New York.

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What is the benifits to living forever?

by Jayk in

can anyone give me a valid reason for it?

growing old is a drag.

the witnesses idea of ever lasting life, that you will come back to your most youthful state is such a bs answer..

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@Jayk A rich man doesn't need to tell you he's rich. Strength of character usually comes through without a person having to spell out their accolades for us. The fact that you felt it necessary to broadcast your alleged achievements is very telling in itself.

As for you not being sure what @jp1692's point is, you've merely confirmed what he was insinuating: you lack basic comprehension and the ability to synthesize the crux of very simple notions put forth to you.

You resort to the straw-man argument of not being an alcoholic since you don't know the difference between malt liquor and single malt whiskey. In that vein, I'd say you never went past the fourth grade since you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

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JW Lawyers and Heavyweights lying in court.

by freddo in

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in a recent canadian case i've seen (on line video in threads on here) the wt lawyer says that disfellowshipping isn't actual shunning but only a cutting off of spiritual association.

but what case is it and is there a transcript available on line?.

any other "good" examples from the point of view that it proves wt speak out of both sides of their mouths?.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIoKtHRdQnk

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Mid-Week Circuis Serpent's "Talk"

by FedUpJW in

so i suffered through another one of these idiotic "encouraging" talks by tony vives.. he prattled on about loyalty, and pretty well concentrated on three areas.

loyalty to ones marriage mate, which is no problem.

if one is married they really do owe loyalty to their husband or wife.. second, he hammered on "loyalty" by having nothing to do with a df'd family member, even a child!

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@FedUpJW Upvote for "menstrual serpents".

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If we just suddenly start talking to DFed people again and use the Canada court video as our argument, what would happen?

by Isambard Crater in

the jw lawyer clearly stated that disfellowshipping only applies to spiritual association, but everyday family contact is ok..

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@nicolaou:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIoKtHRdQnk

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Difficulty fading out

by Emily1987 in

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this is my first post on here so i apologize that it is like an essay!.

my husband and i are currently 'fading out' of the truth.

we stopped preaching in may 2016 and limited meeting attendance in january 2017 and stopped completely in june 2017. my main reason for this was my whole life i have been doing things to please others, even getting baptized to please my mum.

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Hey @Emily1987 Please watch this clip of Geoffrey Jackson and equip yourself with this knowledge, either to put forward to your ex-best friend, or the elders if they impose themselves upon you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpir8vJSdrE

At around 01:35, Jackson tries to claim that inactive members have the right to fade out and live as they please since the Witnesses do not run a "police operation" of harassing members who just want to be left alone.

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